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	<title>Comments on: Pre-orders and Suchlike</title>
	<link>http://www.kalyr.com/weblog/2008/04/12/pre-orders-and-suchlike/</link>
	<description>RPGs. Trains, and bands that write 12 minute songs about Hobbits</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.com/weblog/2008/04/12/pre-orders-and-suchlike/#comment-3056</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.kalyr.com/weblog/2008/04/12/pre-orders-and-suchlike/#comment-3056</guid>
		<description>The trouble with the web is it allows anonymous trolls to throw ad-hominem attacks around the moment anybody dares to express an opinion that they don't like.

And, even though you may not like to be reminded of the fact, "a factory for bad music" is precisely what the Brit School represents to a great many music lovers, no matter how many world-class mechanical engineers or surgeons they might turn out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble with the web is it allows anonymous trolls to throw ad-hominem attacks around the moment anybody dares to express an opinion that they don&#8217;t like.</p>
<p>And, even though you may not like to be reminded of the fact, &#8220;a factory for bad music&#8221; is precisely what the Brit School represents to a great many music lovers, no matter how many world-class mechanical engineers or surgeons they might turn out.</p>
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		<title>By: A teacher</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.com/weblog/2008/04/12/pre-orders-and-suchlike/#comment-3053</link>
		<dc:creator>A teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.kalyr.com/weblog/2008/04/12/pre-orders-and-suchlike/#comment-3053</guid>
		<description>I love the web. It allows loads more people to repeat badly researched information and pass it off as their own stunning insights. The BRIT school has just had the most stunning ofsted report possible. (Check it. Its in the public Domain). The 8000+ students who have been there in the last 15 years have had an incredible diverse range of careers and educational success. Oh and by the way, 4 or 5 of them (in the last 4 or 5 years) got in the news a lot and maybe got exploited by the BPI. SO now it needs flushing because its some sort of factory for bad music. Man you know nothing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the web. It allows loads more people to repeat badly researched information and pass it off as their own stunning insights. The BRIT school has just had the most stunning ofsted report possible. (Check it. Its in the public Domain). The 8000+ students who have been there in the last 15 years have had an incredible diverse range of careers and educational success. Oh and by the way, 4 or 5 of them (in the last 4 or 5 years) got in the news a lot and maybe got exploited by the BPI. SO now it needs flushing because its some sort of factory for bad music. Man you know nothing</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.com/weblog/2008/04/12/pre-orders-and-suchlike/#comment-3052</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.kalyr.com/weblog/2008/04/12/pre-orders-and-suchlike/#comment-3052</guid>
		<description>It's definitely a financial investment, from where I sit. It keeps the band solvent, able to continue to produce music and hopefully tour.

Here in the States, I follow a bizarre little band called Railroad Earth. They're a self-run shop, using a "major" label called SCIFidelity as their distributor (SCIFidelity is built for this purpose), and they basically tour non-stop with a month off here, a month of there.

I buy their merch, their CDs, anything, to help keep them running because they deserve to be. A lot of bands in the States are functioning this way now and it's working, for some, more than others, but it's working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s definitely a financial investment, from where I sit. It keeps the band solvent, able to continue to produce music and hopefully tour.</p>
<p>Here in the States, I follow a bizarre little band called Railroad Earth. They&#8217;re a self-run shop, using a &#8220;major&#8221; label called SCIFidelity as their distributor (SCIFidelity is built for this purpose), and they basically tour non-stop with a month off here, a month of there.</p>
<p>I buy their merch, their CDs, anything, to help keep them running because they deserve to be. A lot of bands in the States are functioning this way now and it&#8217;s working, for some, more than others, but it&#8217;s working.</p>
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		<title>By: NRT</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.com/weblog/2008/04/12/pre-orders-and-suchlike/#comment-3051</link>
		<dc:creator>NRT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.kalyr.com/weblog/2008/04/12/pre-orders-and-suchlike/#comment-3051</guid>
		<description>&lt;em&gt;On the subject of pre-orders, some people have been critical of the prices some bands are charging, with cries of ‘rip-off’.  While I’d have to say that twenty-five squid is a lot to pay for ‘just a CD’, I prefer to think of it in terms as an investment in the band.&lt;/em&gt;
Hmm.  I take a slightly different view.  I'm happy to pay more for something special like the limited edition of Marillion's &lt;em&gt;'Marbles'&lt;/em&gt; or Bass Communion's &lt;em&gt;'Pacific Codex'&lt;/em&gt;, and I'm willing to preorder quite a long time ahead to help a favoured band's cash flow, but I certainly wouldn't pay over the odds as a &lt;em&gt;donation&lt;/em&gt; to a band.  If I buy a CD, that's a commercial transaction.  I'm buying a product, not helping out my mates.  If a band wants more, they need to provide more.
I can't say I see it as an financial investment, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>On the subject of pre-orders, some people have been critical of the prices some bands are charging, with cries of ‘rip-off’.  While I’d have to say that twenty-five squid is a lot to pay for ‘just a CD’, I prefer to think of it in terms as an investment in the band.</em><br />
Hmm.  I take a slightly different view.  I&#8217;m happy to pay more for something special like the limited edition of Marillion&#8217;s <em>&#8216;Marbles&#8217;</em> or Bass Communion&#8217;s <em>&#8216;Pacific Codex&#8217;</em>, and I&#8217;m willing to preorder quite a long time ahead to help a favoured band&#8217;s cash flow, but I certainly wouldn&#8217;t pay over the odds as a <em>donation</em> to a band.  If I buy a CD, that&#8217;s a commercial transaction.  I&#8217;m buying a product, not helping out my mates.  If a band wants more, they need to provide more.<br />
I can&#8217;t say I see it as an financial investment, either.</p>
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