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Hite on Indie Games

Ken Hite discusses indie games in his Ouf of the Box column.

Occasionally I'm taken to task by various peers and colleagues for "buying into the indie mystique," but I will say this. Leaving aside the issue that the "indie movement" has produced at least half of the true RPG masterpieces in the last five years, the various self-identifying "indie" game designers I meet at these shows are almost always folks whose first instinct is to talk about game design. That might have a lot of explanations -- I do most of my drinking with old-school designers, and so we have to decide where we're drinking before we can talk about anything else, for example. But the indie folks care, obsessively, about game design -- they have a lot in common with the War College types who, no doubt, will talk about pincer movements at Marengo at the drop of a hat. And this might help explain why the young Turks sell a whole lot of games at even the oldest-school of conventions like Origins.

I think indie games deserve to be judged on the basis of the actual games, not by the way some designers' bad attitude towards established games resembles everything that was bad about the late 70s punk movement in British music.

For the record, I still think "Tales from Topographic Oceans" is a better record than "London Calling". Unfortunately I don't think many people will agree with me.

Posted by TimHall at August 06, 2006 02:52 PM
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I'm Old School when it comes to Yes -- I may not think Topographic is BETTER than London Calling, but at least its equal.

It's different and hard to compare.

Posted by: Scott on August 7, 2006 01:27 PM

Actually they've both got a lot in common; they both contain a single album's worth of decent music, padded out to double album length with a lot of self-indulgent rubbish.

'Tales' is unfairly reviled (it's far superior to the lacklustre 'Tormato', for instance), but I feel that 'London Calling' is rather overrated; I wonder if people judge the whole album on one great single.

But I think The Clash are an overrated band altogether. The fact that some over-influential journalists (most specifically the obnoxious Tony Parsons) hung out with them a lot has meant they've been mythologised in retrospect. Reading the scribblers you'd think they were to their decade what the Rolling Stones or The Who were to the previous decade; the reality was that they were never in the same league.

None of these comments are about gaming, though :)

Posted by: Tim Hall on August 7, 2006 07:20 PM
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