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Dapol and their livery choices

George Smith of Dapol is complaining about poor sales of their Dogfish ballast hopper. I think this is a lovely model, which is marred by Dapol's bizarre decisions on liveries, which in turn has depressed sales. The first release was in a dubious all-over grey which I think is supposed to represent faded olive green, but it's with TOPS data panels which makes it inappropriate for 50s/60s era modellers. They've not done it in actual olive green, or in the later 'Dutch' grey/yellow colours. They're claiming that the 'body is wrong' for the latter livery because it had an 'extra panel'. I'm highly sceptical of this; all photographs of dutch liveried Dogfish look exactly like the Dapol wagon to me, and the wagon experts on the ModMod list all insist that there was only ever one body design, and none were rebodied when repainted into Dutch. Have Dapol done some dubious research?

He's also moaning yet again that modern modellers have 'deep pockets and short arms', and is (again) threatening to stop making modern models unless 'we' buy them. He's citing the poor sales of the BR blue class 73 as an example. Personally I think one problem is that Dapol are releasing too many models in too short a period, and are forgetting people only have finite spare cash at any one time. Something like a blue 73 in a long-lived but historical livery is likely to be the sort of thing that sells slowly and steadily over a long period. It's not a good fit for the limited edition 'feeding frenzy' approach which is more suited to short-lived contemporary liveries. BR blue really should have been one of the first liveries, not the last.

I want Dapol to succeed, and I want to encourage them to continue producing diesel and electric era models. But I also want them to learn from mistakes, and don't want to be bullied into paying good money for flawed models, or things I don't actually want.

Posted by TimHall at September 10, 2006 08:14 PM
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I think you've hit the nail on the head as regards the blue 73. I bought a couple of the earlier one-offs but got fed up waiting for something I could actually use on a layout. Result - more sales for OO and HO as I'm not about to sit on my *rse waiting to see if N gauge will take off any time soon.

Another aspect (which I think I commented on in your blog a year or so back) is that Dapol have done the N GWR steam modeller a great service with virtually 'layouts in a box' whilst the D&E wallahs only get a scattergun approach. To go N I need cohesive layout options, not isolated items.

Something else that worries me about Dapol's strategy is the 'based on old 4mm' approach - historically most 4mm has been pretty poor and they're running out of options already. I was cutting the concrete slab from the end of Airfix 21 ton hoppers 25 years ago, I don't want to start doing it again in 2006 with the Dapol model.

Despite making a lot of noises about listening to the customer, Dapol show precious little sign of doing so. Scorn was poured on requests for a DCC-friendly 66, so I bought the better Farish offering. Demand for a blue 73 was ignored in favour of one-off liveries. Ho-hum. Dapol's attitude is pretty much 'buy these now or f*ck off'.

I've f*cked off.

Posted by: Steve Jones on September 10, 2006 08:53 PM

Yes, you did comment on that 15 months ago. I've recently reread those posts, and you're as right now and you were then.

All the comments from George Smith are not internet postings, but things said to my face yesterday.

To be fair, not all the new models are based on 1950s Hornby Dublo. The grain wagon does actually have the correct 10'6" wheelbase, after this fact was pointed out when they posted early CAD drawings on their website. So they do listen to criticism, but they've still got a long way to go.

Posted by: Tim Hall on September 10, 2006 09:36 PM
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